Wonderful elk cartridge, so is the .325 WSM, but theyre not common. This new 10mm from FN is rugged, versatile, and effective. That 165-grain ABLR has a G1 BC of 0.620, offering great performance in even the windiest of conditions, as well as retaining energy and delivering a flat trajectory. The main body, however, is brass. Mag. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. It will work but a little much. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. Not everybody has embraced the rage for rangeand not all elk are found in open country. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. Elk dont like any of this. Watch videos, see the latest gear and more. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. Bottles & 12-oz. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. I have both and have taken all of my fast .30 elk with them. I did not determine the rifling twist rate of the Cross Rifle, but Im guessing it will be faster than the traditional 1-10 inches of the .270 Winchester. or .264 Win. The doe fell out of the scope, and I had filled the last of the four tags issued to me on the Hawaiian Island of Molokai. of .414 or so, the 210-gr. A high B.C. But times change. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. Mag. Mag. Let me confess that I, too, consider these best caliber articles overdone and quite subjective, but by hashing them over and over, we gain insights. The primary example right now is the 28 Nosler, but 7mm bullet development continues, and I predict cartridge development will keep pace. Any rifle/cartridge adequate for elk at long range is also adequate up close, but my concept of a thick-cover elk rifle uses a heavy, large-diameter bullet, without concern for flat trajectory or extreme velocity. Mag. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. The .264 topped out at 140-grains. And he could get it in affordable rifles from several manufacturers. For starters, it burns more powder. The Ammunition that I will be focusing on for the 27 Nosler are factory Nosler Trophy Grade 150 grain AccuBond and 165-grain AccuBond Long Range offerings. By the way, the .277 SIG Fury arose out of SIGs project to build a light, belt-fed .277 machine gun cartridge and rifle for the U.S. military. In the other case, it bucked around for about 5 seconds before expiring. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. Sales bloomed immediately when it released. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. For 2020, Nosler has chosen to take the venerable 270 caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new 27 Nosler. If your chosen bullet fails to expand at 1,000 yards, its a poor choice, no matter the energy. will handle the .338 Win. Mag. It hits harder than the .30/06 and even the old .300 H&H Magnum without as much recoil as the .338. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. Although decisively effective, this means that it is overpowered for deer. Short action chamberings are likely to be in shorter, lighter rifles, so instead of a .338 Win. #20. And, I know they are going to be pretty similar, but, still, I have to choose one. The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. On that axis deer hunt on Molokai, I had shots ranging from 100 to 250 yards, and while a fast .270 may seem a bit much for even the largest axis deer that ever walked, the bullet handled the windy conditions very well. . So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. As is a high energy bullet that blows up upon impact at close range. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case. These days certain 6.5mms have been growing in popularity despite relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps. The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads. If you hunt where the game is tough, the shots are long and demanding, and there is no room for compromise, there is no better choice than the 27 Nosler. How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Along with the .30-06 Springfield and .30-30 Winchester, these cartridges have anchored more deer than any others. To prevent the risk of a 28 Nosler cartridge being chambered in a 27 Nosler chamber, the shoulder of the 27 Nosler has been moved slightly rearward, lengthening the neck slightly. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. Mag. Last year, I purchased a Browning X-Bolt Pro in .28 Nosler. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. .280 Ackley Improved. So, in open country, a fast 7mm has tremendous appeal. Zero both three inches high at 100 yards and at 400 yards they both drop 11.3 inches and deflect about 8.5 inches in that 10 mph breeze. but it is not a 1,000. yard Elk rifle it requires skill. Enjoy your videos very much. But replacing the 300 WSM doesn't make sense to me. Joined Feb 1, 2016 Messages 82. Historians of guns and ammo credit OConnors writings for popularizing the little .270, which was and still is a bit of an oddball caliber. Mags. Petersen's HUNTING Publisher, Kevin Steele is in the CZ booth with Dylan Rice at SHOT Show to talk about CZ 600 Series Trail rifle. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. Okay, but minimal. Ditto rifle size. Heres how it performed. Ive just shown that its no faster than the .300 Win. numbers hitting .590 or so, keep velocities at 3,000 fps with carefully built handloads, and 300-yard drop is only 2.3 inches, wind deflection 4.7 inches, retained energy 2,700 ft-lb. If recoil isnt a concern, you can slide up the power charts via the 33 Nosler, .340 Wby. Two of the newest entrants into this category, the .28 Nosler and the .300 PRC. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. There have been other .270s, like the .270 Weatherby Magnum, and Winchesters own .270 WSM, but they have maintained the same 1:10-inch twist rate of the .270 Winchester, and use the same projectile weights. Are you concerned about barrel life? Hunting elk is hard work. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. If zeroed three inches high at 100 yards, that slug should drop just 1.7 inches at 300 yards and deflect just 5.7 inches in a 10 mph right angle wind. I did as instructed, leveling the crosshair of the Leupold VX-3HD on the onside shoulder, and breaking the trigger of the Nosler Model 21 rifle, sending a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond on its way to make meat. The included photo of the model/mock up of this case is close but not exact. The old archetypical big-timber elk rifle was the Winchester M71 in .348. For most big game animals, energy does not kill them. So, bullet performance and caliber are the measures of killing power at expected shooting ranges. They shoot flatter, kick less, and with the great modern bullets we have, they do the job! of .616 from a 24-inch barrel 3,000 fps and a 190-gr. Nonsense. 28. With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. Jan 29, 2023 #2 Dang about a month ago shooters pro had blems for $16/25. Short in the Elvis era meant standard or 30/06 length: 3.340-inches overall cartridge length, down from the 3.6-inches of the parent cartridge. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. Mag. bullet makes it easier to hit should you misjudge the range. Feb 27, 2006 5,121 173. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. However, if I were in the market for a fast 7mm, Id look at one of the new unbelted cartridges designed for these bullets. bullets, weight to weight, have a higher SD for potentially better penetration. One of the most effective elk calibers available. Thats excellent performance for a tough animal. UPC #: 054041612371. Keep it on 4 unless you have lots of time at longer range then you can crank it up. I can wait to get it back. 28 Nosler is a one and done for everything on NA. Consequently, it is not surprising that the bullet did not pass through. Theyre all proven to kill elk with proper shot placement and are available in rifles you wont mind carrying in the mountains. Mag., look at a .338 Federal, .358 Win., or even 7mm-08 Win. ), Read Next: The Best New Guns, Ammo, and Hunting Gear from SHOT Show 2020, Nosler representatives couldnt tell me the B.C. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). I dont personally shoot extreme ranges when hunting by any means, but when I can consistently hit 600 yards in practice, I know 300 wont give me any trouble when hunting. There are dozens of good elk cartridges, with choices depending largely on the distances you intend to shoot, thus dictating the bullet energy you need to project. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. Weighing in at 7.8 pounds before optics and with an MSRP of $1985, the Premier Highlander is an excellent elk hunting rifle. Be the first to hear about our latest news and events. Clearly that wont quite match the 27 Nosler, but thats not surprising because the .277 SIG Fury case is the same length and diameter as the .308 Winchester. I took some big elk with the Swift A-Frame and bullet performance was exceptional. The .338 Win. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Foot-pounds aside, I think elk-sized animals are better taken with heavier bullets than are essential for your typical deer round. After years of the 6.5mm craze, we may be about to witness the .270 rising. Of the seven chamberings offered in the Premier Highlander, the 300 PRC, 300 Winchester Magnum, 7mm Magnum and 28 Nosler all are up to taking elk. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. May 28, 2019 By Layne Simpson. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Bugling rifle hunts arent common, but they still exist. There are some great 7mm bullets! Okay, but minimal. While Elmer had his fans agreeing, the thorn in Elmers side, Jack OConnor, had his readers lapping up the .270 Winchester. The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. Product #: 503034. Again, bullet weight. Will the 27 Nosler shove the .270 Winchester out of the limelight? Learn More . The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. arrived in 1958 as a short magnum derived from the .375 H&H belted magnum case. We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. But in the chart it says it carries it to over 1200 yards. From the post-World War II era . Clearly there is no one right answer. And while most heavy .300 Win. I have shot most of my big game with a 270 Win or a 270 WSM. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. Chambered in the .27 caliber 6.8 Western makes this a certain elk gun. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly adequate for any elk, especially with heavier bullets. Time will tell. On much of their marketing material for the cartridge, they call it The New Herd Bull.. Mag. The immediate success of the 7mm Rem. Ive had unsuccessful elk hunts, but Ive never lost a bull, so my choices have worked for me. Although Ive been shooting all my life, I have to mentally check my shoulder mount before I pull the trigger. loads top out with 200-grain bullets, 210-, 220-, and 230-grain options are available. It throws a 150-grain bullet 3,300 fps from a 26-inch barrel, about 300 to 400 fps faster than the .270 Winchester, 200 fps faster than the .270 WSSM, and 100 fps quicker than the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Thirty-calibers have been sending elk to the table for more than 125 years. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. Here stands the old warrior with its two newest competitors in the rather small .27-caliber world. The .30-06 is the most powerful cartridge ever adopted by a major military. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. For example: Fire a Nosler 168-gr. Ammo is easier to find in a greater variety of bullet weights and styles, too. On the contrary, 150-180 grain bullets in 300 Win Mag can hold up to 1000 rounds. True. How about outstanding accuracy, flat trajectories, long legs and a 165gr wallop at the end of that ballistic journey? The cartridge fires a bullet with a diameter of .284 inches or 7mm. There are several more options if you purchase online or order your loads from a local store, but you should be aware that those who dont reload and purchase from local shops will likely not have many options. The right bullet in the right place. Whats not to like? Stated another way, its the .270s turn. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. bullets. Certainly the .270s and 6.5mms can and do take elk annually, but one would be hard pressed to recommend them as optimum. As for the .277 SIG Fury, well have to see if current actions are strong enough to safely contain those high pressures. Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. This was and is one key to the .300 Win. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. I see it this way with a bullet of adequate caliber for the game hunted, its bullet performance at expected range that kills and is a good measure of killing abilty. Some shoot faster and hit harder than the .338 Win. Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. In comparison a 250-grain slug at 2,600 fps will churn up just 3,750 ft-lb. Design evolves. Calibers lighter and heavier than the 7mms through .338s can be considered excellent for elk. Any rifle strong enough to contain the 7mm Rem. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. Okay, maybe not a pallet, but a lot. The "new" .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. Thats ok. Live and learn is a common aphorism for a reason. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. 2500fps and 1600+ft-lb at same distance. This little brother to the .338 Win. With archery energy is not the killing factor, yet arrows kill big elk quickly. I have just always gravitated to the 7mm's over the 270 cartridges. The easier the terrain, the heavier the hunting rifle youll be able to tolerate. This will be influenced significantly by the terrain youll hunt. Always, the idea is to hit a bull as well as you can, but you want to hit him hard. With a .28 Nosler and a TTSX, you can pretty much guarantee a full passthrough on almost any angle. The .270 Winchesters SAAMI spec maximum chamber pressure is 65,000 psi. Energy and velocity are more indicators of bullet performance ability, along with penetration at range. in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. It might be impossible to find the rifle you want and darn tough to find factory loads to feed it. The result is a standard setting offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. If you plan to order your ammunition online, the best elk hunting cartridge Ive seen is probably the Nosler 160-grain Trophy Grade ammunition with a good old Partition bullet. The .280 Ackley Improved is hot these days, flying about 100 fps behind the 7mm Rem.