But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. LeBron is covered in ink and he seems like an all around decent person (The Decision aside). The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. You are watching the sterilization of this country happening right before your eyesand I notice that most of you respondersare already touting the corporate linelike good lemmings do. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. 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How many bankers have you come across with facial tattoos and lip rings? By the way does anyone have a problem with Clay Matthews have long hair and tats? Be sure to also read best tattoo ideas and designs for football lovers. Missing ur point. Man I usually HATE when the race card is played but this sure walks a fine line. I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. Wearing tattoos is prohibited in his religion so he is not allowed to wear any. And to be honest, I seriously doubt many people care what you look like as long as you get the freakin job done. Kante is the only chelsea players without tattoos in our list. The winner has been LEAKED, Cristiano Ronaldo scores STUNNING first-half hat trick for Al Nassr as he totals 2 HAT-TRICKS IN 3 GAMES. Other dumb black QBs? I think its probably aimed at the Look at me persona that a lot of NFL players have adopted. Love the fact that Cam doesnt have any, but it is certainly not up to Mr. Richardson to dictate this. I find nothing as silly as when people try to compare playing in the NFL to a regular job. - I dont see what the big deal is. Its sad that so many companies feel the need to suppress individualism all in the name of capitalism. theres a big difference between an owner of a business and the owner of a sports team that alot of you are not mentioning. Paramedics and school teachers who work long hours for peanuts, because they want to make a positive impact on other peoples lives. Is a tattoo unprofessional? This is pretty standard. Oh my God! He interviewed for a sales position with a company, and showed up at the interview with an earring. Especially one that isnt uniformly applied, to all positions, teams, etc. Michael Finley 3. They should call this site OldFogeyTalk instead. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Youre right. You can do anything you want. Smith runs second-fastest 40 by DL since 03, Saleh compares Carr to Stafford pre-Rams trade, Allen to be ready to roll for offseason program, How to maximize leverage of No. That could be construed to be a health and safety issue, particularly in a contact sport. Lighten up people. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Hand Football Tattoos Manchester Uniteds star midfielder, Paul Pogba refuses to wear any tattoos on his body. So save all the rediculous comments about athletes being slaves. If Jerry Richardson is a racist, how come he drafted Newton to be the face of the franchise? I could go on with many more examples, but hopefully even your ignorant and mean- spirited brain can understand. Grant Hill 5. If Cam doesnt like it he can work somewhere else, right? ( conservatism reigns)Not unlike the person in the White House, Cam is being rejected for who he is and not what he does. I have both tattoos and piercings, and if you are willing to judge me by those before even talking to me, I dont want to work or know you. Is hard reset only way to salvage Jets QB dilemma? Blanco hit eight homers for the Diamondbacks in just 37 games played last season. Why all the indignation because the owner wants the face of his franchise to be Wheaties cereal cover material? - That being said if Newton is going to be the face of the franchise the Panthers have the right to tell him the image they want him to portray. If Cam really wants a tat that badresign from the team. A perfect example is Robert Kraft and his relationships with his team. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. you cant simply tell your female employees to wear low cut shirts for example. 3. Those who say Richardson can run his business as he sees fit, that theyve had jobs that forbid tattoos, etc. The problem I have with this is that Newton is probably the only player on the panthers that has to abide by these rules. the guy owns a team and has a right to employ whomever he chooses to as long as he doesnt discriminate on a very specific set of items. All you widget business owners out there can dictate how your employees dress. Sounds like a real bigot. Unless Gabbert comes out and says he was told the same thing by Richardson in regards to his appearance, I have a problem with it. He didnt draft the guy and then say theses things. Jerry Richardson wants it to be 1962 forever. It happens in many different workplaces. From full-sleeve tribal tattoos, nameplates and even tropical sunsets. drmonkeyarmy says: This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. @oldhamletman, than he has to put those rules in for everyone and not single people out. The only issue is: a) Whether the team is willing to enforce the code to everyone fairly. I wondered how I would have felt if one of my back surgeons showed up in his scrubs with arms full of tattoos and lips, nose, cheeks and ears pierced. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I dont have any. I said, We want to keep it that way. . Everybody has made good points in this discussion. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer. Well, the guy got ticked off and blew the interview. however, picking and choosing who can and cant have these piercings/tatoos is discrimination and can open up a door to issues, potential discrimination law suits. ahI remember when America used to be alot more about personal freedom (about 10-12 years ago) and less about conforming to the new corporate america that is now in control. The reason he does not wear any tattoos is that his father has not allowed him to wear. They just want the most talented guys. An NFL owner can tell his employers whatever he wants. Were as free and wild as we were in the 70s, just not as successful as then and the early 80s. End of story. There just arent that many supremely gifted athletes like Vick out there that can spend virtually no extra time on being a great QB. CAVEAT: Richardson is 78 and will not be around to head the team through Cams tenure. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. Translation: Dont want to scare white people. It is a joke people support such dumb rules to be enforced on someone. There is something special about being and NFL QB and Cam fully appreciates and understands that. I. I have no opinion about whether players should have tattoos or not. I dont think so. Do NFL players have to cover their tattoos? If he doesnt have any at this age he probably doesnt want them, but its the principle. A guy who has size, strength and perfectly merges RB talent and elite passing skills. Big diff to being the face of the franchise and being a backup linebacker.. Richardson has a reasonable point in this manner.. Newton will be the first face in all of the ads for the team and organization.. If teams want shrink the talent pool they pick from then all the power too them. This was a PRE-DRAFT interview. WebHe was charged with RESISTING AN OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE. The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. David Luiz is a devout Catholic like most South Americans and wearing tattoos is prohibited. No matter how famous you are, somethings are prohibited in the Bale household and that includes tattoos. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. Its called be an adult and realizing that you dont just get to do whatever you want and not possibly suffer consequences. you dont get labor protection for discrimination against tats, piercings, smoking, having kids, being a Nazi or any one of a multitude of personal traits. Ryan Leaf has no visible tattoos or piercings, but I wouldnt want him on my team. U mean some of the already inked up, drug smoking, and unkept folks who watch football. Nothing worse than going to the doctors office and my freaking nurse has a nose piercing. Richardson is entitled to cut him, if he likes, but that would be contrary to his interests, if Newton is as good as Richardson thinks. Problem is, he forgot who it is that was going to be paying his salary. As much as I DESPISE players using the slave term. Yesterday, team management made a pitch to the South Florida media in hopes of convincing local governments to subsidize $250 million in. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. As an owner of a business, I can dictate how I want my business to be presented to the buying public. Iniesta played for Barcelona for 22 years. Find great deals on Mens Wide Dress Shoes at Kohl's today!. The first one relates to the pre-draft meeting between Richardson and quarterback Cam Newton. Typically, when people like this state they that they think they are being reasonable, they are just demonstrating their desire for everyone to look and act the same way they do. Regardless of the motivation, theres something troubling about Richardsons position. Gareth Bale follows the footsteps of his teammate Cristiano Ronaldo and refuses to wear any tattoos. Paul Pogba. Why does a Man feel the need to wear an earring anyway?? I know there are those who will argue the New York Yankees no facial hair rules if one wants to play for the organization. The bottom line is the man is saying that right now I dont want you to leave this franchise and we will all benefit from it. Here's hoping he never feels a need to wear long sleeves under his 49ers jersey to cover the tattoos. You are the biggest herd of sheep I have ever seen. I normally dont get into issues like this and have no hint of racist blood in my body (heck, my wife is white lol).The problem I have with this article is that I am sure the same questions werent asked about Gabbert by Richardson. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. Aug 24, 2011 9:30 AM If Cam is a decent guy who wants to be a franchise QB hed probably just not get tatoos and piercings anyways. And as a subscriber to that corporate mindset, Jerry Richardson knows this all too well. Its his team. Web1. If you had something worth 500 million dollars, would you be worried what any of the posters on PFT thought? Sounds negotiable to me. Even Jerry Jones is smarter than that. I think he has a right to tell the face of his franchise to not look like a disgrace not sure why so many people are taking offense to this. I guess he would turn down the new Tom Brady? Whether he wanted to get a tattoo or not he should have stood his ground and said respectfully sir, I dont have any tattoos or piercings, but I alone will decide if I do or I dont. Employers generally dont want people with visible tats/excessive piercings interfacing with customersunfortunately some NFL players are pretty much always interfacing with customers because they are famous. This mentality is being shoved down all of americas work force as Unions are being forced out. Id be grouchy too if i was in my 70s. Good keep it that way. That is total BS. EvalAngell 7 years ago #11 While I can't tell you which players don't have tattoos, I can tell you that offensive linemen always have the worst ones. Tattoos and piercings are a little different, if theyre covered (or removed), when in uniform, I dont think they shouldnt be an issue. Its not about race or slavery or any of that other B.S. ************************************************** If youre more concerned with your QBs looks than his dedication and hard-work, than that explains why you havent drafted a good one in as long as I can remember. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? JR has the right to say he doesnt want a QB with tattoos and piercings. Allen Iverson crapped on all of the hard work of Jordan, Bird and Magic. It is not unreasonable that owners want them to be non controvertial and risk alienating their fan base. Please explain to me why it would be so crazy for ownership to enforce something like this. Hair style, personal choices, selection of spouse, where to eat, (god forbid he is seen eating at IHOP instead of Dennys) what to wear, where to go, etc, etc, ad nasuem. You have to love the way that Americans are being conditioned; dont let Government tell you anything, but do everything that your boss tells you. It wont happen if he has alot of tatoos or piercings. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. They wanted that more than they wanted to stand on principle, piss off Richardson, and take the risk of dropping in the draft. With Cam Newton, I understand Jerrys position; he wants a clean cut guy to represent the franchise. I disagree with the assertion. If you work ANYPLACEyou have to follow rules. But to single Cam out specifically, esp since hes black, is tainted with the stench of blatant racism. you ppl mean nothing, could find a monkey to do your job. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. Tattoo or not. I think Jerry Richardson is a boorish, stubborn, old man who was the driving reason/unreason behind the lockout. I have no visible tats and no piercingsbecause its BAD FOR BUSINESS!!! You pay me that kind of money, you own me Im yours, sir. nflofficeadmin says: Aug 24, 2011 6:03 AM. Im in professional services. I believe they both come from religious families. If Cam chooses to do something contrary to the owners wishes then Richardson will no doubt calculate it when decided to resign him or not. Am I saying Richardson is a racists? Register now! In my opinion, in most cases, tattoos and piercings just make players look immature and unprofessional. In 2014, tattoos returned with "Madden NFL 15" for just one player: Colin Kaepernick. While I disagree with Richardson on many many things. As for Richardson not wanting Cam to get tats or piercings, its his team and he can request or demand how his players look on the field or in front of the press. I want the best image I can get for my product and that means different things for different places. This is the NFL not Wallstreet. Cam wanted the money that comes with being the #1 pick. I commend Richardson for saying what is on his mind and being upfront with Cam Newton. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. I dont want to see a league where guys that have tattoos are only allowed to be on certain teams because the owners deemed tattoos to be bad for business. Fines? Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. Its like any other job. WebDerek, or Derek Arthur Paggao-Ramsay, was born in Enfield, England on December 7, 1976 to British father Derek Ramsay Sr. See Derek Ramsay full list of movies and tv shows from their career. The fact is that, over the years, Richardson has drafted and signed plenty of players who have tattoos and piercings, including tight end Jeremy Shockey. People are giving examples of how things are in the workplace for non-professional athletesbecause (some of) these athletes are often out of touch with the reality of their fans lives. Okay so I agree with the whole no visible tattoos in the normal workplace but the NFL is a lot different you dont apply for a team like you do in a normal job youre DRAFTED so I think the players can look however they want to and not have to pay the price because they got selected to a team with a strict coach. He is just one of many muslim footballers without tattoos. I actually dont mind this and agree with the sentiment. I made that point in another post. Its his show. The most successful franchise in the history of sports: Yankees have been doing that for years. There are a number of portraits including of inspirational political figures Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X. In the time it took me to post this he prolly sold 10,000 chicken biscuits. It may not be your choice, and it may not be the most courageous choice, but its a legitimate choice. You can ask them, not tell them. This Baltimore Ravens fan is chronicling his team's 2021 season in a permanent way -- tattoos for every win. and no rap music. You guys side with the people in power on everything. Tattoos are the new mainstream. The league doesnt have to work too hard pitching its product to the fans; they sell themselves on it. Thats just the way it is. To tell Cam in this way borders on taking away his freedom on speech through written expression. That is fine. I agree that this is both troubling and disturbing to say the least However, I have noticed that this is yet another example of the new corporate mentality that is being allowed to take over this country. From hair length, to facial hair, and most certainly tattoos (can you imagine a big professional law or accounting firm having a employee with tattoos and piercings all over their bodies?). The yankees have the same thing in place. Kentucky's Republican governor has appointed former NFL player Derrick Ramsey as secretary of the Education and Workforce Development . I for one do not mind a boss/owner being allowed to dictate to his employees what they can or can not wear, decorate, etc Cam was drafted and signed a contract with the team to play in Carolina. Of course teams have the right to at least request this. I dont see what the big deal is. cam wont get to draw that line. I find Cams clean cut look refreshing in the world of sports these days; much like Dwight Howard. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. Chris Paul. Newton isnt applying for a job at mcdonalds, he is applying for a seven figure job in one of the highest profile companies in the world. As long as there continue to be other players on his team with tats or piercings, Newton can make a clear-cut case for discrimination if he is disciplined for getting either himself. 1.8k Views. Kudos to Cam for being well dressed and respectable to a potential owner. Its America and both can do what they want in this country. I think the owner has the right but I dont see how it helps your team win games. Its a legitimate choice. On the other hand, if it doesnt interfere with your job function, its not in the bosss interest to lose talented employees because of the personal choices they make. Pogba is The reason could be that he is still too young for tattoos on his body. Call it what you want. Jerry Richardson has every right to ask that a player not have tats or piercings. James Harden. I am the biggest Panthers fan and Cam Newtons most staunch supporter(and he needs it in Charlotte), since his first game against Clemson last year. Comparing this to typical workplaces LOL!!! Name one great leader to have earrings or other visible piercings. he should be allowed to get a BUST tattoo on his forehead. If you do not like your employers grooming policy you can seek out one that better suits your style. He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. We want is not the same as I order or you must. If the Panthers owner feels that a certain outcome will lead to better marketing and sales while also happening to agree with his values then why shouldnt he say he wants that outcome? Cam didnt have to sign the contract, and Richardson can run his own business. ************************************************** When big money starts changing hands, companies are more likely to support teams and athletes that represent the type of image the company wishes to present for itself. My boss wont let me have visible tats or piercings (I work for a bank, where I am a member of senior management). Im a banker. Then again, most of these comments that hate on people with tattoos really sound like Abe Simpson. I dont have any. I said, Do you have any piercings? He said, No, sir. Ive had jobs before that told me I cant have my hair too long or have any visible tattoos or piercings. Now, having found out he doesnt have tattoos or piercings, hes gone up a few notches in my eyes. The NFL has punished several players for violating the leagues personal conduct policy, some without criminal charges. This interview took place BEFORE the draft. The NFL has always been known as a league where players can display their personalities in a number of different ways. Richardson presumably wants him to do nothing that would potentially alienate the mainstream paying customers.. I think Cam is smart enough to realize his marketing potential if his play lives up to the hype. end of story. For someone who nearly died a few years ago and had to undergo a quadruple bypass, he has an odd way of showing an appreciation for life. From a business stand point Mr. Richardson is well within his rights to make that request. The NFL is trending dangerously close to the path the NBA took years ago and is now the NBA is trying to rebuild its image and fan base. And no, the circumstance cant be a policy that applies to #1 draft picks or star quarterbacks. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. He should be able to get tattoos, I mean look at major superstar athletes with tattoos. Better keep him away from LameBron James then. I absolutely HATE looking at those players with tattoos up and down their arms, gold teeth, big diamonds in both of their ear lobes and hair down to their a$$. This is way different. Tattoos and piercings say exactly that. There are huge differences, to be sure, but the same laws apply. employees do have rights. Denver Broncos. A player on a team is a product you market with a certain image it wishes to promote and portrayand you want the face of it to be as clean as a whistle. He strongly recommended it stay the way it is. Do it all in one complete sports tournament management system. Julius, you may be the best DE in the league but I dont want my best player to have tattoos, so GTFO. Sure he could release him but he would still have to pay the guaranteed money in the contract and I am sure another team would be glad to pick him up. This isnt a matter of an owner telling a player how to dress and act; its about a businessman maximizing his products marketability. 1 location for custom sneakers in Europe. Bottom line is its up to the owner to decide how the team is presented to the fans. If Newton doesnt like the expectations Richardson has placed on him, then he could have held out or asked for a trade. Its his team so he can do so. If he wants to cut all the players on the panthers with tattoos or piercings than he can tell Cam not to have any. Its a business and some of those things do alienate fans which is alienating customers. Last I checked, if the OWNER wants one of his EMPLOYEES to exhude a certain image, then the EMPLOYEE had better comply. Most other teams expect to win. Unless the contract says so, Richardson doesnt have any business telling anyone how they can look. Personal individuality and freedoms are being taken more and more by corporations that see their workforce as disposable and easily replaceable, hence, they believe they can tell you what to think, who to be, what you do with your body, they monitor what you say on facebook, twitter, and other social media in order to try to stifle personal opinions and thoughts. I dont agree with facial and neck tattoos, and primarily an ear piercing really is not that big of a deal. These JR backers are really excited about being model employees and doing what your boss says. no one cares about your jobs or your bosses rules While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. If my QB is spending any time under the needle for a superficial piece of body art instead of studying film or learning every positions responisibility on every single play than he is mismanaging his responsibilities as a professional and I wouldnt trust him as the leader of my franchise. There are enough teams that dont care about tattoos and piercings that I dont think that will be Newtons issue, assuming he has the make-up to live up to his athletic talent. If a potential employee doesnt agree with itthat is fine. He seems like an all around great guy. Or says something stupid. So I guess all of the bloggers were drafted to work at their current companies right? Seriously? You CAN tackle by the hair. ============================== This while working in Chicago. Jason Thompson 9. But dont act like Newton had the option to say, Well, I dont care for Mr. Richardsons rules, so Im going to play for whatever NFL team I choose.. that some of you morons mentioned. This is absurd! Someone tell Jerry no whiskey and well see how he likes that. All types of races have tattoos and piercings. But it is rediculous to think that people would watch the NFL less if all the players had tattoos and piercings. The only superstar duo without tattoos is Embiid and Simmonds. If your company says no tattos or No piercing it is a written policy. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. I guess it is a fair assumption you have never heard of the CFL, UFL or Arena Football League. my 80+ yr old great uncle has a tat that says mom on his arm, does that make him a bad person? In an era where football players flaunt their expensive possessions, Kante opted for a humble life and refuses to show off things. I just want to play football.. So I guess hed pass on Tom Brady because his hair is too long? Brazilian international David Luiz also said no to having tattoos on his body. Most companies have an expectation that their leaders present themselves in a certain way. It might be just me, but I care a lot more about how a player acts on and off the field than about how many body mods they have. Tattoos have become more prominent across the league (and in sports in general) in its more recent history, though not all football stars have made smart ink choices. Unfortunately for Jackson, his tattoo choice Appearing as guests on PBSs Charlie Rose (thanks for the heads up, SportsBusiness Daily), Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson talked about a variety of issues. Cam liked what he heard, Richardson liked what he saw and heard. Apparently, Richardson is willing to tolerate those things when it comes to men who wont become the face of the franchise. Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis That may hold true for fans. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. After all, this is a business, would you go to McDonalds if Ronald had 15 piercings all around his mouth and nose? but find one company that says if you get a tat youre fired. thats crossing the line. To play for the organization, you complied with the rule. but when its their time (ie: off the clock), they let the arms show. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. Thats it. Its his team so he can do so. Otherwise I have no issues with tattoos and piercings on players. Oh this is NOT gonna get 8 pages of comments about how bad this man is out of his mind Nope lol wow. 4. This is the NFL. By even asking this question of Cam, JR has now planted a seed in Cams mind that maybe he should ask JR before doing anything that Massa JR dont prefer. 10 best NBA players who dont have tattoos. People always look way too deep into things. Once Mike learned that he needed to put in the extra time he became a much more successful pro QB and not just a freakish hybrid RB. You can agree or disagree with Richardson. You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. WebNFL players without Tattoos. Tattoos & body piercing have definately become more mainstream & acceptable. It cant be a case-by-case issue (even though that seems to be the leagues M.O.). So what if hes old school. He told him he cant have tatoos or piercings! He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team.