0000002213 00000 n The one published by "precision shooting" is posted at the following link: http://www.prfelr0.f2s.com/prfelr0/ click on primer 1 and primer2. Large rifle primers - which measure about .128 inches in height and .212 inches in width. SPM = Small Pistol Mag . brass. However, I have seen or heard of many examples where the the primer that gave the best results might not have been the one that would have been intuitively picked based on its brisance. It takes a Large Rifle Magnum primer to reliably light this much powder. Take them with a grain of salt and as a guide only. We just wanted to Cases larger than that we normally used magnum primers. Leupold LPS 3.5-14X scope in Sako mounts on it. Sometimes I hand seat with a Sinclair tool and sometimes I seat using the press. a custom Remington 700 we have built ourselves. Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. rintable Burn Rate Chart. I think all of the flame pictures help illustrate that the variety of primer models do different stuff despite all primers being divided into just a few categories. Standard deviation . I think it is fair to say that even the cooler primers work, providing the reloader has been careful to work up the loads and allows for volume, powder coatings and temperature at which the loads will be used. I usually buy several sizes and types of primers in lots of 5000, or 10,000 about once every year or so, as I do most of the reloading for out hunt group,Its not unusually to knock out a couple hundred cartridges in an evening with my dillion reloaders). 300 | 1,000 Count $ 42.99. Federal 215 and Winchester standard and magnum LR primers. The amount of work involved to do the same test as you conducted herein would be immense, which is probably why it has never been published together as a single body of work. .2232, 16 CCI 300 LP 3.18 Ive since rerun the series with .308 Win Palma brass and small primers. This is likely a matter of conjecture. Your first post mentioned measuring the depth of the primers, and to my way of looking at the world, that . firing 15 Nosler 130-gr. My Components; My Loading Data; All User Loading Data; Components . RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, Federal 215 and Winchester standard and magnum LR primers. Rifle Calibers; Rifle Recoil Table; Handgun Caliber Chart; Handgun Recoil Chart; Caliber Comparisons; Ammo Size Chart; Shot Size Chart; . were very even, but this was a limited lot and they are not widely available. I think I am going to try out some 450's now because I don't need to worry about slam fires in my 6.5x47L and they tend to be cheaper. 3.2-5.6 .5171, 15 KVB 45 LP Russian 3.89 3.3-4.2 McMillan synthetic stock. In bolt action rifles, not semis. Freedom Is Never Free. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. The barrel was 24 inches long. It is a standard factory rifle, that came with one Cameron. Three shot groups. It is relative to this set of tests and this tester. This may be the most comprehensive and thorough LR primer test ever done. The only thing they changed was the primer. })(); To comment on a post, click Post Title or "Comment" Link. I found this a while back but it seems it goes against the Win primers being hotter than the CCI. It seems to even out the ignition by eliminating a variable (sometimes with grains in and sometimes without endstream endobj startxref The following are with 92 grains of H 870, same bullet and . Size Large. Large rifle primers all appear to have the same cup thickness, no matter what the type. It is obvious that the thicker cups will withstand more pressure. PRIMER LEGEND . Add to Wishlist. A different order between a few wouldn't surprise me in the least - especially if I did it all again with a different standard load. Three shot groups. At the other end of the cartridge scale, 2.7 grains of Bullseye, a 148-grain lead wadcutter, and regular Small Pistol primers make up my .38 Special target ammo. Well done gentlemen, Share the post "Ultimate Large Rifle Primer Shoot-Out 16 Types Tested". I have Federal 210 primers(only 30 or so) but my local store also has Fed 210M primers. Thank you very much for your efforts in providing this excellent article. Not that I've ever seen. It confirms what many of us have known for a long time. 0000054368 00000 n Primer Size Chart . Primer with Lowest ES/SD: Sellier & Bellot LR (12/3.1 fps) And, NO! Check With Your Local Ammo. Originally designed for the bolt-action Mosin-Nagant rifle, it was used during the late tsarist era and throughout the Soviet period to the present day. The following loads were shot in a Sako TRG-41 target %%EOF The Murom KVB-7 or KVB-7M should be the Wolf LR-M under a different name. Makes me think about some BR4 primers for my 6.5x47L over the #400. The ES/SD numbers will therefore be higher than is typical with five-shot strings. His varmint bullets are absolutely fantastic. Not that I have found, and why I said "nothing". 100%. SP = Small Pistol . see how these components would perform under the conditions stated here. Ive had a slam fire. For example, would you guess that Sellier & Bellot primers had the lowest ES, by a significant margin? $7.99. Results are much closer than with the LR primers and again there was a surprise winner (CBC Magtech 7 1/2). So what's the difference? BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Cartridge Primer Size . A final part of the test took a small number of the best performers and ran them in my primary 155.5gn Berger BT Fullbore / IMR-8208 XBR load without the MagnetoSpeed on to see what they did to groups without a load-retune against my usual CCI-BR4 load and to see if they would cope OK with 60,000 psi pressure. same bullet and brass. 41 - Small Military Rifle Primers | 1,000 Count $ 119.99 $ 99.99. There's not a lot of variance in primer burn rate, only in quantity of powder to burn per primer. only the velocity is the average of the three groups above it. Federal Small Rifle Primers (Champion) 1000/Box $219.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: Federal; Item Number: 205 BK; Remington HTP .38 SPC 110-Grain Ammunition - 50 Rounds . Can you in. All powder charges Three shot groups. for the 300 Weatherby magnum. #34 and #41 are military primer designations for large and small rifle primers, respectively. All Primers have a different Brisance. 10.3x60mm Rimmed LR Swiss 10mm Auto LP 11x59mm Rimmed LR French Gras 43 Mauser 17 Hornet SR In that post, Hoogs mentions that even a CCI Large Rifle Magnum left a noticeable amount of unburnt powder in his 460 loads using W296. Clive. July 21, 2020 By Joseph von Benedikt. 6,5 to 9,3 mm: 100: 10: 33: 18,4: 40,5: Percussion caps. It was also years ago and things may have changed. It's higher than 30-30, and not much less than the 30-06. The first "magnum" primer, the Federal 215 was designed for this very purpose. Both for 6.5 CM. Any thoughts? 6 rounds with the RWS primers hang fired, including 2 of 10. This is a great post and definitely deserves a sticky in the reloading section, Thanks for posting. Many handloaders think the 215 is still the hottest commercial rifle primer, but the CCI and Winchester magnum rifle primers are just as hot, if not a little hotter. CCI Aps BR2 Large Rifle Benchrest (1000) $ 135.00. CCI "APS" Large Pistol Primers Strip No. But be sure to remove it before you pop a primer, thermometers propelled by the GI's wolf whistles and shattering on the walls of the ward. The brass colored wolf primers always fire fine in my bolt guns (and in my ar15 as well). startxref The LRP is at least .008 taller than the LPP and has a significantly thicker cup (not shown on chart). The only primer power chart I have ever seen published was in an NRA American Rifleman article in 1984. Very interesting. 0000054298 00000 n 30H32. 0000077015 00000 n We used Lapua brass and the Virtually all primers today are made using either Lead Azide or Lead Styphnate as the priming compound. How critical is the primer seating mechanism? Editors Comment: Laurie shot three, 5-shot groups at 100 yards with each primer type. Up to 6,000 psi difference just by changing primer brands. Interesting that the CCI BR2 was running hotter than the CCI 200. RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, CCI #250 Large Rifle Magnum Primers (1000) Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 95.00. %%EOF Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! And small you have Magnum. $7.99. here that there is nothing scientific about this experiment. No issues with the copper cup Wolf. Another unexpected finding was that with all of the 17-round strings halted for 15 or more minutes for barrel cooling between shots 10 and 11, in over half of the strings shot 11 produced a (low) MV that was out of the range of the others and had to be discounted. Lyman & Nosler classify this as a standard primer, but Hornady, Handloads.com, and Chuck Hawks classify it as a small rifle magnum primer. 3 VihtaVuori N310 38 IMR, Co Hi-Skor 800-X. Lots of people had good luck with them. Those extra heavy tended to be stronger, and light were weaker. Where are S&Bs sold without paying to special shipment? mounts. At .020' thick cup metal, these primers are minimal, at best, for light .223 Remington loads. All 2:43 will have a large rifle . Remington says the compound is the same as the 6, but with a thicker cup. Within every Remington primer is a group of subcomponents assembled to exceptionally tight tolerances. 41 Rifle Primers - 100 Count. 0000006474 00000 n I don't have a link to the site , but 6mmbench rest.com or one of those type sites have extensive pages on standard primers. Most of the tests were of 100 or more primers. These are the links to the two pages, directly. Thanks for the insight Rocky. 4.1-6.0 .4300, 7 Remington 9 1/2 LR 4.75 3.7-6.25 .5679, 8 Fed Match GM210M 4.64 4.0-5.6 .3296, 9 Federal 210 LR 4.62 Remington Shotshell Primer All Gauges. . All the following loads were with the Berger 85 grain [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Primer burn rate(?) PSA 300blk with some off brand remanufactered ammo. The Effects Of There are a great many views on the subject, a few based on tests (including primer flame photography) but most apparently hearsay. Laurie Holland. Must add the Remington License Plate Frame to your cart, one per order. http://www.serveroptions.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003275.html, [This message has been edited by Dutch (edited 02-08-2002).]. the frozen ones. So, don't take this as gospel but as a rough indicator. Are Wolf Primers still consistent? primers could be tested at different temperatures under the same conditions to see if temperatures made any difference. Federal - 209A. Thanks ! Read more; CCI #34 7.62mm Military Primers. Many shooters wrongly believe that BR or magnum models have thicker brass and are therefore 'tougher' than standard . I used the CCI large pistol magnums primers, and they performed just like rifle primers, they didn't peirce, or flatten, ignited the rifle powder just fine. It was such a tedious task that I abandoned my original plan of also doing pistol primers. Large rifle primers are 0.008" thicker than a large pistol primer. That article featured actual pressures changes in identical charge weights using Lake City Match brass, Sierra 168 grain Match Kings and 40.5 grains of IMR-4895. CCI No. The new Russian You will have match. %PDF-1.6 % Primer with Biggest Group Size: CBC Magtech 9 (0.7 average, three 5-shot groups). is a double base powder, same bullet and brass. The following are with 80 grains of VVN 165, same bullet We thought we would run our own test, using all the different primers that we have here. JavaScript is disabled. Federal Gold Medal Large Magnum Rifle Primer - 100 Ct. $9.39. Primer with Highest Velocity: Remington 9 LR (2815 fps) Here are the primer types tested: Test Rig: Osprey Rifles-built F-TR rifle with Savage PTA action, 32 Bartlein 1:12-twist Heavy Palma barrel, and Dolphin Gun Company modular stock with an F-Open/Benchrest fore-end. Apr 30, 2012. The standard primer sizes for metallic centerfire (rifle and pistol) cartridges are small (.175" diameter) and large (.210" diameter). load have been discussed many times before. Winchester Reloading Small Pistol Magnum Primers. 6mmBR.com is the best guide for 6mm BR Benchrest precision shooting, complete with 6BR FAQ, Reloading Data, Shooter Message Boards, Reader Polls, and Photo Gallery. Of the others, there WAS a relation between weight and power. Primer Flash Test Photos. Out of stock. Large Rifle = LR, Large Rifle Magnum = LRM, Large pistol =LP, Brand/type Power Average Range Std. 0000012690 00000 n The biggest surprise to me came from an elderly (at least 10 years) lot of Czech Sellier & Bellot standard caps with an ES of 12 and SD of 3.1 fps, way below those of the nearest competitor. I think the BR4 is milder than the CCI 400 primers. 0000027388 00000 n It's higher than 30-30, and not much less than the 30-06. 0000000016 00000 n I did try a search but couldn't find anything apart from Chainsaws similar unanswered request back in August. were weighed. Or a small primer pocket. Fiocchi Large Rifle Primers. Match event calendar and rifle competition accuracy training tips. Yeah yeah yeah, and matchkings won't kill a deer. This extensive test is an important contribution to the knowledge base of precision shooting. Winchester works to make sure all primers are reliable, instant and precise. NOTE: This data is reference only. In fact, from testing I and others have done, it almost seems to be capricious in nature, and therefore unpredictable as to which primer(s) might be the best alternatives to test when one is not giving satisfactory results. Interesting and informative article but it raises a couple questions in regards to Rem 6 1/2 that I've been unable to answer this far. What changed about the 6 1/2 to suddenly make it suitable only for low pressure cartridges? Even though they dont recommend it? German Salazar's pictures were taken in 2005. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; Their magnum LR primer is the F215. Interesting read, thanks! I noticed they listed James Calhoon in that article. Credit should also be given to Target Shooter Magazine for publishing the results. Read more. 0000076644 00000 n I wanted to see if anyone else has my experience with wolf primers which is contrary to the notes in the OP. Let us start with Large Rifle Primers (LRP) vs Large Pistol Primers (LPP). The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The testing was apparently done with a homemade ballistic pendulum, which left a lot to be desired. Add to Wishlist. Thanks! I have never looked at primers apart from reliability. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? CCI 350 Magnum Large Pistol Primers 100-Pack $ 6 99 6 dollars 99 cents. 0000027640 00000 n The last row in each table shows the we will try it to see how it performs. That said, I had heard the CCI 450's and #41's were basically the same so I was searching for differences and found these post's. Add to cart. Federal Champion No. They are very similar in their rate of propagation. His subsequent usage of Winchester Large Rifle standard lit all his powder. Three shot $7.30. Many handloaders think the 215 is still the hottest commercial rifle primer, but the CCI and Winchester magnum rifle primers are just as hot, if not a little hotter. of extruded Hodgdon H4831. Different Primers On The Load. CCI BR2 and the Fed 's were the most even of the common ones. Therefore choose based on other factors, such as accuracy, low ES/SD, cost, cup hardness . bullet and brass. Large Rifle Magnum Match (LRM MATCH) Federal - 215m. to be similar in burning rate. 0000001395 00000 n GM205M. While working my way through college at a local gun shop, I advised a customer frustrated with his inaccurate handloads to try match-grade primers. I quit shooting them years ago because they made a mess of the bolt face even with new W-W brass. 0000002481 00000 n Click Photo to read full test results in Target Shooter Magazine. We know that major seating faults definitely have an effect, but do minor variations in seating tension too? It has always been my impression that low ES/SD correspond to optimized combustion; that is to say when the primer, cartridge volume (pressure cell), powder charge, were all optimized to give optimal combustion for a given bullet weight. Remington 7 - The only primer specifically marketed by Remington as "benchrest" quality. Five round with the RWS primers hang fired, including 2 of CCI 400 primers are designed for .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, .219 Zipper, and .222 Remington loads: NOT for .223 Remington! http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=56422.0, http://www.mpzflame.ru/production/primers/, www.sinclairintl.com/product/11248/Primer-Pocket-Tools, https://www.rcbs.com/priming/bench-mounted/automatic-priming-tool/16-9460.html, The Snobbiest Town in The Snobbiest State in the N, Fiocchi, Ginex, Murow Small Rifle Primers, Experience 223 Remington. The Wolf Small rifle with the copper cup I've had failure to fire with my light striking bolt guns, but they go bang every time in my ar15. $7.99. mounts. The military imposes specific upper and lower sensitivity limits. 0000010068 00000 n Note the spreads. It has a Hart barrel #5 and a Primers labeled "match grade" cost 10 to 20 percent more than standard versions. Out of stock. 0000053794 00000 n 5180 meters per second for Azide, 5200 meters per second for Styphnate.3. 5.2-6.5 .4437, 3 CCI 250 LRM 5.66 2 Winchester WAALite 37 VihtaVuori N340. I know everyone has a favorite, and although theyre really tough to get, I would really liked to see the Wolf LR-M in that mix. This is more visual and tells a good story too. I suspect they have a minor influence, but thats hunch not science! well in this rifle before, and we did the same with VVN 540, as it is supposed One (minor) reason that small primer brass may be better than many standard LR types is that it usually noticeably easier to seat SR primers and to get good feel on their contacting the pocket floor. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. http://www.prfelr0.f2s.com/prfelr0/primers1.jpg, http://www.prfelr0.f2s.com/prfelr0/primers2.jpg. Large Rifle 5,3 Boxer: Rifle cartridges 5,652 R and cal. 4 Comments. Quest for Less Vertical Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Vertical Dispersion Test Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Primer Availability Report Wolf Primers Have Arrived, Primer Comparison Testing with 6 BRA at 500 Yards. 0000077528 00000 n I'm am not doing this again! <<917A3329DAD4B341BF9A2FBBF1E535ED>]/Prev 194532/XRefStm 1395>> Lauries findings will doubtless influence many hand-loaders who hope to produce more consistent ammunition, or achieve better accuracy. I am keen to understand how the Sellior and Bellots went ,not sure on some of the abbreviations.Sellior and bellot are becoming quite common place in Australia,though I havent seen many reviews as to their primers,as they are the cheapest ,they may not always be the best.currently running up loads of Swede using 2209 and Sierra 123hpbt. xref Most important thing to find out is. J E CUSTOM . test, using all the different primers that we have here. 2847 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<17398BDBD67F214CBB3755FAA4BE7340><20967B39C4AB1349BB25AF309099C3A9>]/Index[2829 26]/Info 2828 0 R/Length 94/Prev 197341/Root 2830 0 R/Size 2855/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream following primers in our possession. temperatures. did the bedding, and installed a Leupold 4-12 X scope in Leupold mounts. June 3rd, 2015 LR Primer Types Tested for Velocity, ES/SD, Group Size and More! Warning: Some published data calls for Large Rifle primers, though this brass was designed for, and most data is for Large Pistol primers. The Rem's had some very wild shots high and low. A forum community dedicated to Smith & Wesson firearm owners and enthusiasts. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. And standard primers. This charge fills the case to about half This means a LRP will not seat flush or below the face of the case head in a pistol cartridge . SR = Small Rifle . Fishing Bait Chart; Hunting Camo Patterns; Guns. Large Rifle = LR, Large Rifle Magnum = LRM, Large pistol =LP, Brand/type Power Average Range Std. For this test, I used previously necked up and fireformed Norma 22-250 brass, body sized with a custom Redding . Sierra 300 grain Match King bullet. $47.99: NA: Notify: Midway: Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers 8-1/2M. Both are roughly the same diameter. Yeah yeah yeah, and matchkings won't kill a deer. There really is no such chart. In part 1 of my Large Rifle Comparison I take a look at each manufacturer's particular primer and give a quick overview. All cases for each group There are primer Brisance test that rate primers by there brisance (Heat) but as far as I know no one has checked them for heat sensitivity. You are using an out of date browser. Add to Wishlist. Thank you, Bullets; Primers; . Large Rifle Primers Fed 215 WLRM CCI 250 Rem 9 M WLR F210 CCI BR2 CCI 200 Rem 9 Small Rifle Primers Fed 205 Rem 7 WSRM Fed 200 WSR CCI BR4 CCI 400 Rem 6 1/2 *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. LP = Large Pistol LPM = Large Pistol Mag SR = Small Rifle LR = Large Rifle LRM = Large Rifle Mag BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Primer Size and Bullet Diameter Chart - 2 4050 S. Clark, Mexico, MO 65265 www.grafs.com 800-531-2666 32 Short Colt .313 SP 32 Winchester Special .321 LR 32-20 WCF .312 SR 32-40 WCF .320 LR 325 Winchester Short . For starters, based on the loads tested, which duplicate maximum published 6.5 Creedmoor loads with the bullets used, large-rifle primers are on average 19.66 percent better than small-rifle . Found this from offsite search, exactly the information I need. The generally accepted difference is heat is 6 percent, up and down from the middle ground CCI200, although that is subject to actual scientific data, which I . This testing was done to try and rank primers by power (brisance). size, one of which would be a ball powder. The pointer remains at the highest point of the shot. Read more; CCI Aps Strips . in red which was frozen over night and then shot. They used the same hulls, the same powder, powder charge, shot, shot charge, wad, and reloaded them on the same reloader. In this case, it was a Federal large rifle magnum. I have not measures themperhaps your not seating them fully? Buy in store-Limit 2. Three shot groups. Equipment reviews (.243 bullets, 30BR cartridge, 6mm Norma. 0000015151 00000 n The standard primer types are pistol, pistol magnum, rifle, and rifle magnum. Click Photo to read full test results in Target Shooter Magazine.. As an aside, a couple of years ago, shortmags.org published a list of primers from hottest to coolest. Reloaders know that primers come in various designations: large pistol vs small pistol, large rifle vs small rifle, etc. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Equipment reviews (.243 bullets, 30BR cartridge, 6mm Norma Improved, gun barrels, powders, primers, gunstocks, dies), accurizing, 1000yd ranges, ballistics . Mar 13, 2022. This another thing to consider in shooting. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The following loads with 63 grains of H870, same bullet and On the other hand, if some of the primers that gave poorer results in your testing with a specific .308 load gave much better results with a different cartridge/powder/bullet weight, it would be much more difficult to make any general predictions that might allow a reloader to keep a stock of only two or three types on hand, one of which would be likely to give satisfactory results over a wide range of cartridges and powders. Lee Reloading Auto-Prime Hand Priming Tool. It does show there are great differences in primers RIfle Primers Brand/type_____Power Average___Range____Std. Keep them all the same. As Slamfire said, the #34 and #41 military hard primers likely will be more constant. Reply. Primer with Smallest Group Size: Remington 9 LR (0.43 average, three 5-shot groups) $7.49. Store For Availability. 6mmBR.com is the best guide for 6mm BR Benchrest precision shooting, complete with 6BR FAQ, Reloading Data, Shooter Message Boards, Reader Polls, and Photo Gallery. And get this, among ALL the primers tested, Rem 9M Magnum primers produced the lowest velocity, while Rem 9 LR (non-magnum) primers yielded the highest velocity. coated. _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', '.accurateshooter.com']); I did not test the 210M. Handloader Magazine does it every once in a while. The average group size for the top six primers varied by only 0.10 (0.43 to 0.53), so one cant conclude that one type is much better than another. 0000028110 00000 n What is the pressure of a .44mag? Small pistol primers - which are about the same size as small rifle primers but designed specifically for handguns. Does anyone have any information regarding the characteristics of S & B primers and how they compare to the other primer brands described above? Laurie Simply outstanding work and write-up as I always expect when you are involved! Winchester Large Rifle primers produced a standard deviation of velocity of 13 f.p.s. JavaScript is disabled. 0000028040 00000 n $79.99: 45 wks ago: Notify: Midway: CCI Large Rifle 7.62mm NATO-Spec Military Primers 34. CCI primers offer the reloader clean, reliable ignition. We had to stop our test at this stage, as our TRG-41 got If the brass has a large. 0000053407 00000 n Closed the bolt and off she went. @(aO 0{!{:8:@T @1fpQ{3W=97,_:Xr"Ck&efS cH Se One of the frozen rounds with the CCI BR 2 hang fired. of those horrible looking plastic stocks. I load those in hornet 222 220 swift and other varmint calibers. Thanks again for the excellent write-up and work! 0000001728 00000 n Or if they are so constantly tweaking their formulas and mixes that the information we're looking for is too much of a moving target. 22661. The rifle has a 26-inch barrel. Buy in store-Limit 2. The following loads are with 41.2 grains of VVN 540, which Great info. My .338 RUM likes 100 grains of H1000 behind a 225-grain Nosler Partition bullet. Fishing Bait Chart; Hunting Camo Patterns; Guns. We thought of doing the test on 4 different case sizes. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. (6 1/2 cup thickness is.020, 7 . The following are with 75 grains of Reloader 19. Hi Laurie, your comment re S&Bs slack fit raises my question. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. These primers use a heavier, thicker cup to withstand the more intense small-cased rifle cartridges such as the .222 and .223 Remingtons. CCI "APS" Large Rifle Primers Strip . They can cause primer piercing within stout loads in .223 Remington applications. Since then almost every company has changed their primers. $12.99. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. in a Ruger Target model rifle.