To God? Thanks for writing! Steven Furtick is the founder and main pastor of Elevation Church, one of the fastest-growing churches in the United States. While he holds an American nationality and practices Christianity. People who are unwilling are often, in my experience, not actually interested in following Jesus closely. Im not attacking Furtick. As for including the entire faith teachings, please feel free to defend any of them. There are plenty of Scriptures to indicate that God may respond to us based on our actions, or our faith. I just want to thank and encourage you in contending earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. What IS the question? The gospel , death, burial and resurrection of our Lord. Touching a dead body a common occurrence caused one to be ritually impure, and there are instructions about that. If you study the scriptures long enough concerning the identity of Father/Son/Spirit, it is CLEAR that it is all ONE God, ONE Spirit, ONE Lord. God would have been an abstract theory. Our mindset is important, but we need to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. God is a molecular structure that fills all in all. He bares his heart in vs 2-14 as an example for what it means to fix our eyes on Jesus. On that, modalists agree with the Bible. To which quote are you referring? Thats different. Modalists claim that there is only one PERSON that is God, but the Bible describes three different persons as the ONE God. It really only takes a couple of minutes online to find false teaching from the multitude of false teachers if people would just take the time. But it and the other quotes slide perilously close. If your point is that hes not a false teacher, then you must agree with these things or at least think theyre inconsequential. Named one of his sons Graham after Charlotte-born evangelist Billy Graham. After having said that, I believe youre probably right. God cannot sin. Oneness theology isnt simply monotheism. This is where you read a section of the Bible and you add to it. Its that we wield the same kind of power that God has. Thanks for visiting! We are made in Gods image, but as God said there is no one like Him. This unbiblical idea is that humans are not only somewhat like God, but that we are duplicates or copies of Him. Iron does indeed sharpen iron and some friction is a necessary part of that process. The spontaneous baptism how-to guide describes its purpose as to "pull off our part in God's miracle.". The truth matters. does not equate to Gods blessing. I wish you well, and hope that you will reach out if I can help you in any way. In any other context, I have no doubt you would share my concern: In the beginning, Marduk created the heavens and the earth. I agree with you that Furtick genuinely believes what he is teaching so my heart breaks. Its also a heresy known as panentheism. Also, seeds sown among thorns often prove unfruitful. Pastor Steven Furtick. For example, in that same passage, a narcigete would put themselves in Jesus place. The problem: Elevation Church, led by Steven Furtick, suggests that an invitation to be baptized will be more effective if 15 volunteers are the first to move when the invitation is given. This makes no sense, of course but it does help Furtick set up more on the little gods doctrine. Yes, that. Ask yourself, who was Jesus constantly praying to, himself? Thats the issue as far as I am concerned. Right, good choice, as those scripture about false teachers is true and not to be ignored, but we were speaking of a certain scripture and its interpretation, yet you bring it into the realm of being part and partial to a false teacher. One thing that even the son of God cant do. Thanks for letting me know. I would also consider it blasphemy. Yes, its complex. I do sincerely appreciate you taking the time to write. Theology should come directly from the Bible wherever possible. While the statement of faith on Elevations website is entirely orthodox, what gets taught from the pulpit is not. I end, if I did not reach my max, with Thessalonians 4: 6-9. For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. This man may be and seemingly is wrong on some doctrinal issues. We are not kept in the dark about the truth of the gospel. Im sorry youre sick of this. Thank you for all you have written. The screenshot below is from page 4 of Elevation Churchs helpful Spontaneous Baptism How To Guide. Each of those analogies falls apart at some point, and fails to adequately explain what God is like. So, were do you get Jesus was entirely powerless from : He was able to and The power of God was in Nazareth? You have to be baptized to go to Heaven. Its hard, because some of the music IS good. That is convenient, yet to throw it out as false because someone uses it, is also wrong. Im more likely to listen to someone who doesnt point fingers. The church has now grown to a weekly attendance over 27,000 (as of 2019). We are talking about Furtick as a teacher and his interpretation of Matthew 13:58, yet Matthew Henry is a teacher, and said the very same thing, will you draw him into this category too? 9:23,24. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. I mean no offense by this, Mercy. The Father wasnt speaking. Its not a surprise that Andrew Wommack agrees with false teachers like Steven Furtick and Myles Munroe, as he too teaches contrary to Scripture. When I spoke of the Great Commission, he was confused. He was able to. They can easily search and find him, but I wont facilitate it. The standard in the New Testament is clear: we ARE to throw the baby out with the bath water. I have confidence that it happens all the time, all around the world. While he was still in his teens, he read a book that inspired him to become a minister. Those are your only options. When He tells us, we should pay attention. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Theyd rather follow their favorite teacher. Furticks teaching is chock full of narcigesis. So He made man, and wo-man, to reflect who He was. Changing the verse from did not to could not allows Furtick to make claims about our own belief that arent found in Scripture. That Jesus was speaking only about Revelation. Start Smaller. But I did check the website for Elevation Church to find out what they teach about the Trinity. The only legitimate claims of modalists on this topic are the ones on which everyone agrees: there is one God. Paul wanted to be healed, but lacked sufficient faith. God is a molecular structure that fills all in all. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. Here are the benefits: If your father is a modalist, youll find out rather quickly. He is known for being the founder and lead pastor of the Elevation Church. Thats part of the reason people like Furtick have a huge audience. What God did when he sent his son [he] broke the Law for love. The idea is that love is greater than the Law. This idea that we are able to limit God is held by many, if not most, Word of Faith teachers. How about occasionally giving the gospel . He seeks the lost, does not delight in the death of the wicked, and wants all to come to repentance so His character is such that we receive all manner of blessings from Him that are entirely unrelated to whether weve gained any approval for our efforts. Steven Furtick is a completely self-serving, self-worshiping, self-absorbed charlatan - a sinner who has never repented and been born again. I dont feel attacked by you. In your last response to Thomas you said: Iron does indeed sharpen iron and some friction is a necessary part of that process. I only disagree inasmuch as friction is essential. Again, this was why Jesus said; According to your faith be it unto you. To be more precise, the Word of God teaches that there is only one God, and The Word of God also teaches that God is spirit. Thats part of why Ive decided, after 24 years of having online discussions about Jesus, to go ahead and write about false teachers: so many have simply been deceived. All of this is contrary to Scripture. Its not that I cant identify error, its that I cant know someone elses motivation. Steve Furtick Welding General Foreman. While its true that our faith can prompt God to act, our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to. As I continue to add to the False Teachers list, and to add articles about them, I want to be responsible and use their own words rather than sharing my own, largely irrelevant, opinions. Its all over the Gospels, for God is no respecter of persons Acts 10:34, as He only respects faith, Matthew 9:29. Seems like a pretty big deal. I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. Their low self-esteem, expressed by Nathaniels question about anything good coming from Nazareth, was what trapped the power of God. Instead, Christ could not do many miracles because the circumstances under which the Lord readily shows Himself were not present. Heaven is waaaay more important than pizza, as Im sure youd agree. As an aside, I have doubts that Furtick even has a clue about perichoresis. And if you have so go into such length to disprove a blessed church you are the deceiver please reach out to me on this matter and lets pray on it ..In Jesus name I ask or be held accountable . Rather than revealing who weve been all along, following Jesus actually results in a change. Come on, Angela. The term family is singular. For Death and life are in the power of the tongue. Proverbs 18:21. The concept of perichoresis appeared 650 years after the close of the canon. Thank you for writing this. He holds conferences with Word of Faith teachers and New Apostolic Reformation teachers. The idea of Trinity is a theological one. How many times have we heard a sermon like this from Furtick, or Joel Osteen, or Kenneth Copeland? I only have one question for you: Do you agree that God is a molecular structure that fills all in all? Why do we learn in Colossians 1 that the Son actually created everything? =). The word in Romans 10:9 thats translated you will be saved is a verb. Will be a week or so. Jesus Himself said that HE and the Father would indwell us. Having described the failure of the people in Nazareth to believe Jesus despite their knowledge of His wisdom and power, Mark explains that our Lord could do no mighty work there except to heal a few people (Mark 6:5). The false teaching is the one that contradicts Gods own words when HE said that He is the only God, and when as the Son, He said that He (the Son/Word) and the Father are ONE (heis : one in ESSENCE) I dont know enough about Furtick to know whether he is preaching/teaching the heresy re what you speak creates your reality (a synergistic new age teaching brought into the church by quite a few false teachers of the NAR crowd who are spreading that teaching and building churches all over the US and probably around the world the Declaration statement may indicate this is in his mind if not his teaching but we can only know what he speaks out of his mouth directly) but Modalism is not false. Theres a gigantic difference between Jesus not doing many miracles because of their unbelief and Jesus being unable to exercise Gods power because He was entirely powerless to do so. I wouldnt think so, but thats the result of what youve written. That would make Him subordinate to the law, and to the one who gave the law. The religious leader was born and raised in Moncks Corner, South Carolina, in the United States of America. For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. May God have mercy on him, his family, his church, friends, associates, and all who listen to him. Passive voice: the subject is the recipient of the action, not the one who performs it. Steven Furtick is a popular American pastor and songwriter. He exists as one substance in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. From Phineas Quimby to EW Kenyon to Kenneth Hagin to Furtick, Word of Faith teachers claim that God is limited in what He CAN do, that WE are the ones who can unlock His power and allow Him to act as Hed LIKE to act, and that its our MINDSET that keeps us from reaping the amazing benefits of being born again. Not Dead Yet. You agree that Christians do not have power over God. Dont pretend that you know my heart, either. If only the apostle Paul had known what Kenneth Copeland, Steven Furtick, Joyce Meyer, and Andrew Wommack know. Heres a quote from Furtick for your consideration: Do you agree with Steven Furtick on this matter? Thats good stuff. Heres Furtick, talking about Gods encounter with Moses in the wilderness: When God said I Am to Moses, you know, my name is I Am, He was trying to get him to see you are as I am. So it cant apply to the whole Bible, or even to the whole New Testament. That makes us more powerful than God. I want to have the TRUTH, as we can find in Scripture. Ill ask you, quite simple: do you agree with this statement made by Steven Furtick? Third, we know that the Son is not the Father nor the Spirit, and that the Spirit is not the Father. Feeling encouraged by a false message, confident when they should be repentant, etc. Jesus said the HolySpirit proceeds from the Father. Thus, when Mark says Jesus could do no mighty works in Nazareth, He does not mean that their unbelief sapped His power. Thats okay. Early life and education [ edit] He is also a songwriter and a best-selling national novelist, according to one of the country's main periodicals. Go find them! Therefore, if anyone is in Christ,the new creationhas come:The old has gone, the new is here! You might want to write more, but you dont have to read through the 10,000 word screeds that people used to post here. Yet the heart is the inner man, right! Jesus wasnt blocked. I want to express this, and hope you will not be offended, and write a lengthy response to it, as such privilege you have , yet do not share with others. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Elevation pastor is not wrong at all Second, as pointed out in the article, Furtick has a degree from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. 13th April 2020. It literally means He came out from my inside the Father. Of course, I dont really watch very many of his sermons so it would be easy to miss if he did. South Carolina had the highest population of Furtick families in 1840. The Bibles descriptions of God tell us that the Son is not Father, the Spirit is not the Father, and the Spirit is not the Son yet they are all God, and there is only one God. Hopefully, we all learn from our mistakes. However: if Furtick is right, who are we showing Gods nature to? For the wages of sin is penance, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. This is true. Instead, its modalism: the unbiblical idea that God is ONE person that appears to us in different modes, or manifestations. They will enter Jerusalem singing, crowned with everlasting joy. The verse reads your held accountable not your better and not the same we are all the Same under Gods eyes you need to address this I challenge you to show your accusations of this man I want to see proof not your own understanding because you are incorrect what the verse says that you are standing on.. and Ill pray your convicted to see the right over the wrong . Word of Faith teachers typically demote God and limit Him in ways that dont match Scripture. They got married in 2002 and founded the Elevation Church in 2006. Pastor Furtick is one of the chosen. Study the Scriptures. Im curious. Does not Paul say salvation is in the power of our tongues confession? The only thing I remember I was taught about the Trinity , is that as a human being we cant understand it. Indian Trail, North Carolina, United States . This is not the God of the Bible, its someone else entirely. When Jehovahs Witnesses talk about Jesus, theyre using words that sound the same, but have a different meaning. That doesnt make it wrong, of course but we should be careful about embracing concepts that are far removed from their source. In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt. Yet that is not true, for the word is clear; John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does notbelieve,I do not judge him; forI did not come to judge the world but to save the world. Hes also a dangerous false teacher, whether he knows it or not. While this, by itself, is not necessary heretical, its silly. Theres a gigantic difference between Jesus not doing many miracles because of their unbelief and Jesus being unable to exercise Gods power because He was entirely powerless to do so. No I cant see a mans heart, but everybody talking about heaven aint going. Thanks for asking. So no, a christian has not power over God, but rather through Gods power we can do exploits, as in Daniel 11:32 the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. Oh, you say thats for the old testament saints? I do. Remember Lot's Wife. An assertion like that would be valuable information if it could be readily verified. A defining feature of most Word of Faith teachers is known as the little gods doctrine. Truly, thats implied throughout both the Old Testament and the New Testament and its one of the ways we know which teachings are true and which are false. Very well explained. The . Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. Christ in you, the hope of glory Colossians 1:27 Unless we can become so unified that we actually indwell one another, I would suggest a less mystical reading of John 17. He draws us to Himself. Im happy to have been even a little bit helpful. This sets the stage (so to speak) for what is about to happen, in effect because these local folks coped an attitude saying ; who does this local guy think he is? All three took part in creation. Furtick is one of those. Jesus was. Future tense: just like in English, points to an event that will, or might, happen in the future. The Father is spirit. . Here are a few: There are TONS of verses to choose from. According to Christian Headlines, Steven Furtick, senior pastor and founder of Elevation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, spoke Sunday from Luke 5:1-11 about Jesus asking Simon Peter to become his disciple. The coverage of Furtick in the American Gospel series confirms this. How do you explain the trinity? Along the way, you might ask something like this: What do you say to people who believe that God is only one person, who just shows up in different forms at different times?. I like Narcigesis way more! Do you know of any instances he may have snuck that in a sermon? God existed, then created humans, then became the Son to carry out different functions. The Father sends the Holy Spirit after Jesus goes back to Him, and so on. Its CRUCIAL that we avoid going further than God went in making claims about Him. Essentially, the principle of Trinity exists all around us. There is ONE Spirit, ONE Lord, ONE God and FATHER of all who is above all and through all and in you all So yes, the Spirit in us IS the Father , and He IS the Son, ie the Word of God made flesh. Unfortunately, a number of prominent preachers espouse this false doctrine, and Furtick is among them. Thanks for your comment. Im open to the possibility that Im wrong, of course. I feel the same about Joyce Meyers. He is one of the know evangelists all over the world, and apart from writing books, he takes his time in evangelization. If you dont know that, you simply havent read the New Testament very much. It is false to teach that God is a multiple personality being. Nobody teaches lies and falsehoods all the time. The topic of this article is the false teaching of Steven Furtick. GodWords isnt really about me, so theres not much but you can find some info in the About GodWords pages, and my personal Facebook and Twitter accounts are linked at the top of every page. Yet, the difference between animals blood and Christ blood, is great. Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, Ephesians 3:18-20. Thats not legal. He is wrong about the Trinity. Recently, I was watching a message by Pastor Steven Furtick, who is a fellow Southern Baptist Church planter and senior pastor of Elevation Church, which is also affiliated with the same. Trinity Christine Caine. If knowing the difference between faithful biblical teaching and false teaching matters, then I made a wise decision to begin writing about what false teachers say. I believe he believes what hes saying. Jude 1:3-4. Sarah didnt have faith that God could give her a son, but He did anyway. Been Here Before. Thats the reason that so many of the warnings in the New Testament say to not be deceived: to avoid that, we must know the gospel. Im grateful that youve pointed to a few things Furtick teaches that are unbiblical. I actually tell how life really is and tell my own fears and struggles that people can actually relate to. It literally means He came out from my inside the Father. I hope youll take all of this in the spirit in which it was written: from one brother to another, with respect, and even a little fun. I get why these actually misdescribe the Trinity and are ultimately unhelpful. He teaches that God created a good Law, then broke His own Law, and did it because He loves us. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. Its an observation. What makes the most sense of these verses, in context? Rather than being God, Jesus to them is a created being. These limits are self-imposed, of course and they are chosen to produce the best outcome. >> The problem is that people dont study the Word of God enough to understand. Of course, youve already made up your mind. Insightful and reignited the importance of chasing after Truth. This was Gamaliels opinion, and shouldnt be used as a strategy for how to address false teaching in the church. If God broke the Law, justice has not been done. This is also false. Can you admit to that! Lysa TerKeurst is a member of Elevation Church, that's Steven Furtick's church. Be like a Berean and test everything including what I say here with Scripture. Im often asked to assess what others teach. If he is not a man of God then why did he start out his ministry with 14 people and grow to over 27,000 in a short period of time. That notwithstanding, i believe as a human, we should be able to sieve what we are being told, take the good and ignore the evil. In fact, its the opposite of what the rest of the New Testament says about the matter! No, we dont throw out true things but we do throw out false teachers. We need to be careful to avoid presuming Gods mind. If you just read the website, you might think hes right on track right? The thief on the cross was a special case. Instead of seeing Gods grace in this life and His mercy they didnt receive and STD or worse, the justify their sin going as far as to say It was obviously Gods will I have this baby, so I dont have to recognize my sin in its conception and anyone who tries to call me to account is going against Gods will.. It seems really important to avoid gossip about people, and to be fair and gracious in our assessments. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. The only way to change anyones bad idea is to offer them a better idea, and for them to take it. And he went round about the villages, teaching. So, again, it can be either word used, as here, scripture does interpret scripture with similar scripture. Be transformed into an advocate for truth to protect yourself and your loved ones from the wolves that the Scriptures talk about. May I share a harsh scripture that not only you, but all of us, may need to consider, Acts 5:38,39. Jesus death provided for our healing, except for Paul and Timothy and, of course, every Christian who ever died. This is serious business. You are right. Thank you for your encouraging words, Josh. No, I do not see it, as Furtick said of Jesus; He wanted to. This is modalism, the same error that Furtick makes. He did not make us multiple personality beings, but made us in HIS image. The fact that something is IN the Bible doesnt mean its an instruction from God. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Others Named Steven Furtick. He called Word of Faith teacher Joyce Meyer the greatest Bible teacher alive today.. I have friends who were conceived because their mothers were raped. Judge not yet you be judged. Good question. 4044). He was prepared to. Your email address will not be published. He is rare he actually tells how life really is and tells his own fears and struggles that people can actually relate to. Its the established position of Scripture and the witness of millions of faithful Christians throughout history: God CAN heal, but He might not and we dont have the power to override His decisions. The helpful information isnt the problem, of course. What you need is what we all need: to see people actually following Jesus closely. Ill break that down for you: So heres what sozo means in Romans 10:9: IF (in the future) you (the singular second person) confess and believe, salvation will happen (indicative). The reportedly sermon served as the inspiration for a Facebook post that was subsequently taken down, yet screen screenshots of the . Appreciate that look up. We cant create worlds out of nothing. I am rare. In our natural state, we want nothing to do with God. This measure he was referring to was the measure of God, a measure he did not want to exceed, for he knew (knowing the scriptures) that God is to receive all glory and honor. The question is whether Steven Furtick can be trusted to teach and preach what God has said and, while most teachers say a lot of things that are true, the measure of a false teacher is that they too often say things that are untrue. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you, And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. I would have to say, however, that the first quote hardly contributes to a little gods doctrine such as taught by Mr. Copeland, Mr Hinn, Mrs Meyers, etc. We will see how full of sinful judgemental, misguided jealousy you are. In addition to not saying it, it also does not indicate it. The only relevant question is whether Steven Furtick responsibly teaches what Jesus taught.
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